CSConmater6 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Your In-Game (RP) Name: Pablo Bravado Which staff member are you reporting: Blakee Please describe the staff member's unjust behavior: He cheated in chess using a chess engine whilst wagering all my money against him after he lost one match against me. Please provide any available evidence to back your claims: I was notified by Mr Chess that the moves blakee did was certainly made by a chess engine. He was suspicious at the first game and then I had another one with blakee where Mr Chess told me it was no way he wasn't cheating and that he played like a grandmaster. I would say Mr Chess is a reliable source as he is the most active chess player on this server. Link to comment
Falcon Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Like, I only have one image of the suspicious behaviour from Blakee, he did a lot of moves that were identical to what stockfish recommended and what really made me think he used stockfish or a engine in general was the 4 moves check mate which he performed perfectly. I have seen grandmasters do moves like this, but when I have talked to Blakee earlier he has told me he suck at chess and he has told me that before too. I understand he don't want to wager me if he suck and knows he is gonna lose. But with moves like this I am certian that he can't suck at chess and that he has to be a very skilled player to do moves like this. In general even skilled players don't do moves as accurate to stockfish as Blakee did so it is still super suspicious and I am certian that he has cheated during the matches. Link to comment
phantom Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 its a chess addon on a darkrp server man... Link to comment
Falcon Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Yang said: I can say from firsthand experience that Blake is most definitely not bad at chess. He is in fact, just very modest. He plays chess often in the server and wins quite a lot. If I had to guess the reason for the similarity of moves. It’s just because they’re really good and decently well known moves. Weird how he severly lost the first game of chess he played against @CSConmater6 by a mile and did not move at all as well as he did the next two matches, it just don't add up at all. Also @phantom I don't know if you care but these games were for big sums of money and a moderator cheating in any kind of way is kind of dusturbing behaviour. The general rule is "Do not use cheats or exploits." which I feel this goes under. Edited July 20, 2020 by Falcon Link to comment
Falcon Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 minute ago, DarkPhoenix said: As I have played Chess against Blakee in-game, I can say that whether he lost the first round or not is irrelevant as I also lose the first round as a way of gauging the opponent's moves and strategies, as most people will stick to a strategy that works and not switch how they play. Losing the first round is also due to the fact that it allows someone to judge the skill level of their opponent while not revealing yours. A loss doesn't hurt if its a strategic loss. I am a experienced chess player and I can spot a cheater when I see one and after what I saw and what the stockfish engine saw he is a cheater, there is no doubt. Link to comment
ℳıℜⱥℭℓℯ _Space_ Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) Alright, i'll make it clear right now, i was in call with blakee at the time and we were talking about the possibily that pablo was indeed the one using a bot, i talked to him about it, i watched the game chess myself i was indeed watching and using a bot to see if there were anything suspeicous, and every move the bot was telling me to do, pablo was doing it, if id haev to say who was cheating here, id say pablo -Miracle Edited July 20, 2020 by ℳıℜⱥℭℓℯ _Space_ Link to comment
Falcon Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Capt Krunch said: so you are cheating to see if other people are cheating? (I have played against blakee) I have never used a chess engine while playing chess myself, but I have used one when I watch other people play. Link to comment
Falcon Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, ℳıℜⱥℭℓℯ _Space_ said: Alright, i'll make it clear right now, i was in call with blakee at the time and we were talking about the possibily that pablo was indeed the one using a bot, i talked to him about it, i watched the game chess myself and honestly there were nothing suspicious, -Miracle I know you saw the first game, and I did as well. But it was the two other games that was super suspicious from Blakee. Link to comment
ℳıℜⱥℭℓℯ _Space_ Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I was still in call with blakee and we could tell every move pablo was doing, i saw suspicious game, thats all im saying Link to comment
Falcon Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, ℳıℜⱥℭℓℯ _Space_ said: I was still in call with blakee and we could tell every move pablo was doing, i saw suspicious game, thats all im saying I don't know if Pablo was cheating or not but I know that a moderator cheating is something that shouldn't be taken lightly. Personally I take this serious as I am playing so much chess on the server. Edited July 20, 2020 by Falcon Link to comment
Kil Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Adding this so everyone stops. If you're not involved directly with this report please do not reply I will be handing out warning's if this continues Link to comment
Falcon Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, ๖ۣۜJuice said: This has to be one of the stupidest staff reports I’ve seen within my near 3,000 hours on Garry’s Mod. You’ve provided no proof on your offense, in no way is Blake cheating/exploiting provable, especially without video evidence. The scripts in question are made by a robot, which was created to be equal to the human brain with chess skill and experience. If a robot is able to detect the best possible move, what makes you think Blake wouldn’t be able to? Your argument falls short and provides no video evidence whatsoever. Especially with the lack of evidence of his past play styles and skill in the previous games, there’s no possible way you can win this case. You clearly have no knowledge of chess engines. Stockfish (which was the engine I was using to analyze the match) bruteforces the chess game and checks every possible move (I only checked 23 moves forward but it is possible to do much more). It is not trying to impersonate how a human is thinking so this statement is just wrong and shows your knowledge of how the engine used works, please read up on things before making statements in the future. I know that there is no evidence directly here beside the chess game that I have provided a screenshot of that is a replica of the game done between Blakee and Pablo. If @Blake and @CSConmater6 confirm this then we can use that game further in this report. To end this I have already explained why I know for certian that he has used a chess engine to cheat and I really don't like when people cheat in the game content I am using the most on the server, that is why I am upset about this. Link to comment
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