Report on CarelessLion for false warn.

[Sandy Krabe c:]

Your In-Game (RP) Name: Cumbass

Which staff member are you reporting: CarelessLion

Please describe the staff member's unjust behavior: I was rp'ing as a hobo walking through the city and talking to people, one guy drove up to me with his car and I said "nice car can I take a spin, to which he said yes and I hopped in. Not a minute later of trying to drive around I get jailtp'd and the first thing out of his mouth is "I'm warning you for failRP." I asked why and he said that as a hobo I'm not allowed to drive (not in the motd) and that even though I got permission to drive the car from the owner it's failRP and silent carjack. He warned me for 'FailRP(x2)' even though none of this is in the motd. Carjacking is taking the car without permission or killing someone and taking the car, is it not? Owner gave me permission and hopped out leaving the doors unlocked, I feel like this isn't carjack to begin with. Asking him about why i broke a rule that's not in the motd, he re-informed me that I supposedly actually broke 3 laws (FailRP twice and silent carjack [isn't that failrp? so wouldn't i be warned for failrp x3?]) During all of this time, he allowed a mayor to have a law about bugbait being illegal which isn't allowed under the motd and only made him remove it after he told me "go to forums if you have a problem with this" and I asked him about the law again. He told me countless times to "read the motd" when I asked why i was warned and after reading the rules about carjack and the hobo job I asked him where in the motd these rules he's enforcing are and he ignored. I'd like my warn to be removed at minimum, it's unfair that staff can just whim a rule into being when it's not made clear to the player in the rules and apply a penalty for it.

Please provide any available evidence to back your claims: I'm not sure how long you keep logs for, but this happened at servertime 23:0something on 9/17. My shadowplay is only on 1 minute so sadly I didn't catch the exchange between myself and the owner of the car.

 

 

Posting for the 2nd time because someone deleted it for no reason

[Saddy]

Hi Sandy, I'm sorry that you've had a bad experience with one of our moderators. They have been notified and will respond shortly

[Carelesslion91]

I’ll start this off by saying that I was in a discoed with a large number of other moderators (One being Gibby) who agreed that driving a car as a hobo is not allowed. This IS also stated in the MOTD (Hobos cannot own/drive cars) and it is also stated in the MOTD that hobos cannot perform hostile actions (Carjacking being one of them). Carjacking is driving in someone else’s car (it’s technically stealing). Also, silent carjacking is a separate warn from FailRP. All in all, it’s common sense that hobos can’t drive cars, and it’s stated in the MOTD. Staff are also allowed to handle situations not in the MOTD in just ways in which I did, yet again, it is in the MOTD. I’m sorry that you received a warning, but it was no other decision than yours to break the rules. 

Edited September 19, 2019 by Carelesslion

[Carelesslion91]

I would also like to follow up on your statement about the mayor. Literally within the minute that you mentioned something about the mayors u just laws I asked him to delete it. I don’t have recording at the moment since I’m in school but yeah, I did. Also, if you made a ticket and I was in a sit, I’m entitled to continue the sit that I am in, especially if there are other moderators online as I cannot be in multiple places at once. Again, thank you for making a report, best regards to you in the future.

[Saddy]

Thank you for creating a staff report!

 

Unfortunately, I find this in favor of Carelesslion. Driving a car as a hobo is only permitted if it is a tricycle, even if a person allowed you. I can not comment on the mayor event as there is no evidence.